PLEASE NOTE - THIS ISSUE WAS FULLY RESOLVED AND THE PLAYER GIVEN THE €200 BONUS WITHIN 24 HOURS - AFTER CC GOT IN TOUCH TO RAISE THE ISSUE
Dear site administrator, staff, and fellow members of this board,
This is a request for help and/or justice, not for myself, but made on behalf of my friend, who lives in Spain and whose English is rather rusty, and who asked me to post it here instead of him so his words don't get misunderstood. I know him for a really long time as a trustworthy person, and that's why I can personally vouch for his story (in addition to the screen shots he took, which I will also post here). In addition I've introduced my friend to casino-crush a few weeks ago, after I found it myself, and that's why I was personally involved in its latter part of the story trying to help him.
In short, we've all probably heard bad rumours about Black Widow Casino being rogue (that's why I've never personally played there). Now it seems those “rumours” XareX *MAY SEEM* completely true and Black Widow is indeed a rogue casino, currently in the business of attracting new players with a seemingly decent signup bonus, then giving them the finger. But before we say anything else and throw empty accusations around (didn't you just do that? lol), let's review their terms and conditions for this bonus, shall we?
*edits by crushadmin for fairness*
How do I receive this special 400% bonus?
Deposit Bonus
$50 $200
Make an initial deposit of $50.
Complete your deposit-playthrough of 4 times rollover to receive the bonus.
The bonus will be added automatically into your account balance within the hour after the wager requirements have been fulfilled.
To cash out, complete your bonus-playthrough requirements of 25 times rollover.
*Note: Only wagering made on non-restricted games will be eligible to satisfy the wagering requirements of this offer. Please read all the terms, to learn of your playthrough requirements.
Terms:
IMPORTANT: This offer is ONLY open to first time depositors.
All forms of Baccarat, all arcade games, all forms of Blackjack, Craps, American Roulette/RoulettePro and Sic Bo are excluded from playthrough qualification for this promotion.
When playing Slots, Video Poker or any other non-restricted game to satisfy the wagering requirements, players must wager their deposit 4 times (UK/GBP players 7 time deposit play through) to receive the bonus, and 25 times to cash-out any portion of the bonus.
Please note that bonus play through tracking will not begin until your bonus has been deposited to your account.
This bonus is subject to our official Terms and Conditions, which shall be binding in all cases. You must comply at all times with the standards and/or laws in any jurisdiction where you are located or residing.
No cash-ins for less than the bonus amount received - after completing wagering requirements for a given bonus - will be honoured. The withdrawal amount will be returned to the player's account, and should this occur again, the casino reserves the right to close a player's account.
Players making a withdrawal before their wagering requirements have been completed will be advised that their bonus will be automatically removed from their account balance and given a chance to cancel that withdrawal. If the withdrawal is filed, the bonus amount removed WILL NOT BE REISSUED.
First time depositors that attempt to cash in their real money balance BEFORE they receive their welcome bonus will have their withdrawal declined and the amount deposited back to their player account. Further attempts to do this will lead to account closure.
Attempts to layer this bonus with further bonuses, or any other effort to play not for entertainment but for pure financial gain, may result in the return of your deposit, the loss of all bonus money, and any future opportunities to earn bonuses at Black Widow Casino
By accepting and gambling using this promotion, the player indicates that these rules have been read and agreed to.
Black Widow Casino reserves the right to terminate this offer at anytime during the promotion without advance notice.
You are allowed ONLY ONE ACTIVE ACCOUNT. Winnings will only be dispersed to players having ONE account. If you have more than one account, all winnings will be VOID.
If the name on your casino account does NOT match the name on the NETeller, PPATM, Moneybookers, INSTADEBIT, Firepay, Visa or MasterCard account used to make deposits to the account, any winnings in that account will be VOID. For security reasons, you have been issued a log-on password. In the event that you lose or forget this password, it may be retrieved from our database. If any of the above applies to you, or you have any questions regarding our policies, contact our 24 HR Customer Service Department for assistance. All cash-ins will be subject to audit before being processed. Black Widow Casino reserves all rights to reclaim bonuses or any winnings for failed audits. Black Widow Casino reserves the right to modify these rules or cancel this promotion at its discretion. Black Widow Casino reserves the right to close accounts at any time especially when registration information is discovered to be incorrect or misleading. Black Widow Casino is restricted to individuals of legal age only. Minors may not play. All promotions are available only once per person, family, household address, e-mail address, credit card number, and environments where computers are shared (university, fraternity, school, public library, workplace, etc). This promotional may only be used in combination with the NETeller or Moneybookers offer at Black Widow Casino. By accepting and gambling using this promotion, the player indicates that these rules have been read and agreed to.
Individuals residing in the countries of China, India, Sweden, Poland, Malaysia and Denmark will not be eligible for this promotion.
*Management has the right to extend or discontinue this special bonus offer at any time.
So my Spanish friend saw this 400% exclusive to casino-crush.com bonus, followed the ***exact banner link from this site*** to Black Widow Casino (I figure this is important to mention) today, downloaded the casino, registered an account, and made a deposit of 50 Euro. Then he proceeded to play Casino War with 5 Euro a hand, and busted out before he got to wager even 150 Euro (which is pretty weird in itself with ~98% average return on War in Playtech casinos – maybe Black Widow's software is rigged too?!). Now, the terms and conditions say he has to wager his deposit 4x to receive the bonus, which obviously didn't happen since he depleted his balance, while playing with his own money. At this stage he came to me for help because of his poor knowledge of English and unfamiliarity of the situation, and I obviously didn't turn down his request.
That's where the interesting things started happening – he told me there's no mention at all in the terms and conditions as to what would happen if the player loses his deposit before qualifying. So I've personally FULLY read the terms and conditions over a few times, thinking that maybe he just didn't understand them. Nope, he was right, there's nothing relating to that here. But at least it said he should get his bonus credited within an hour, and that's good, right...? ...well, sometime later he messages me and says he only got 50 Euro credited to his account.“Never fear”, said I, “just talk to their 'immediate and helpful support' (their words, not mine, support section of the site), they'll surely be able to help you. I'll even translate on MSN if you don't understand something the 'experienced and informed M2S2 agents' (their words again, which makes it all rather ironic) tell you. It'll all be fine.”. Boy, was I wrong...
For starters the customer support rep in question, “Angie”, wasn't familiar with this 400% bonus. She didn't seem to be all that informed, trying to give him the 10% cashback bonus (which is idiotic in itself, since as a customer support agents she SHOULD know all the different promotions running at the same time, not like that have thousands of them). He gave her the direct link to this promotion, which she was studying for a few minutes. Then she proceeded to tell him that the maximum bonus he can get is 50 Euro which **SHE THINKS*** was already credited (out of nowhere and randomly, considering she just read the promotional terms and conditions for 200 Euro bonus, advertised here, in this thread...).
From there on he insisted it's supposed to be 200 as advertised, while she insisted he only gets 50 Euro (which he has never explicitly accepted as you can see from the chat screen captures, it was credited to him automatically by their system). I even suggested him to ask if he can make another deposit and finish the remaining wagering requirements (somewhere around 60 Euro) to get the full bonus, to which she flatly said no. So I told him to make screenshots of the chat conversation, which he did, and to not touch the 50 Euro she credited to his account, which he also did, and exit the casino. And that's where it leaves us now... He fully lost his 50 Euro deposit, still has only 50 Euro bonus on his account, and the experienced, informed and helpful casino customer support refuses to cooperate.
(edited by crushadmin - some of this went a bit too far without proof of foul play - the terms were not met by the player so the comments from here-on were considered 'unfair') This post will be forwarded to our affiliate manager ASAP for his feedback once the we have received the player id.
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